3.30.2006

Does Hilary Duff Count?


You know what the world needs now? It isn't love. Or alternatives to oil. Or freakin' peace for that matter.

The world needs Courtney Love.

And by Courtney Love, I mean the early Courtney Love, she of the baby doll dresses, smeared lipstick and eardrum-splitting melodies, not the later, Versace-whore Courtney Love or even the current circus-freak/negligent mother/artistically spent Courtney Love (although America's Sweetheart was sadly overlooked), because while we may not need that specific woman per se back in the spotlight, we sure as shit could use some new boozing, brawling rock stars. And ladies, I'm looking in your direction.

I mean, where the hell did all the female rockers go?

Where's a chick that will scream into the mic, swig a bottle of beer, yell at the crowd, throw her cigarette at the crowd, maybe even pee on the crowd? Where's a bruised, bawdy banshee that beats the crap out of you while she fucks you senseless after the show and then steals your wallet, goes to your apartment and fucks your girlfriend? Where's a hotel-trashing, cop-slapping terror who crashes her car into a tree because she had three square meals of quaaludes?

Not that there's a lot of male rockers living up to the title of "rock star" right now, either (oh, Axl, if you only you hadn't become a pot-bellied, braided, litigious bore). And Love would chew up these whiny Fall Out With Cutie Chemical Death Cab Romance bands, spit them out and then snort them if she wasn't passed out somewhere in a gutter right now.

But I'm sorry, the ladies just aren't cutting it. Sheryl Crow has settled for adult contemporary "meaning" and "depth," Nikka Costa's record company misplaced her somewhere after she started appearing at gigs as a frizzy-haired couch, and Avril Lavigne has become so blond and bland she makes Ashlee Simpson look like Wendy O. Williams.

You know who's rocking out? Kelly Clarkson. That's who we have now. Are you happy, Shirley Manson? You disappear for a while, come back with an under-promoted, underwhelming Garbage record and leave us with Miss American Idol ruling the teen girl mosh pit.

(On a side note - have you noticed how all these ladies go from dark hair to blonde and blonder? Sheryl, Avril, Ashlee, Kelly. Shirley went blonde for a while. And Pink, of all people, is too.)

Remember the 80's, when Joan Jett and Pat Benatar made men pee in their pants? Or the 90's, when Lilith Fair, while not exactly rocking, overstuffed the media with so much estrogen-fueled guitar chords that even "artists" like Meredith Brooks and Natalie Imbruglia could pop a squat and out came a hit single?

You know how bad it is now? The Grammys had to scrap the male and female rock vocal categories and combine them into one. You know how many women were nominated this year for the Solo Rock Vocal award? Zero.

Thank God there's still Karen O. of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs who fellates microphones, splatters herself with ketchup and actually has the decency as a "rock star" to not comb her hair. Even now in her sixties, Tina Turner could make an entire stadium of people spontaneously orgasm just by brushing her teeth. And, at the Grammys two years ago, Melissa Etheridge raced onto the stage like a bald-headed demon given one last chance to shred apart her vocal chords for the sheer pleasure of it while belting out Janis Joplin's "Piece of My Heart." Unfortunately, she has since regressed back to the land of ennui, even appearing on Oprah which is one of the least rock things you can do.


Ah, Janis, if only we still had you now. Not only could you sing the blues, but you were a drunk, sweaty, quivering mess.

And that's just how I liked you.

34 comments:

C.C. Painter said...

Yeah!

Anonymous said...

Interesting post and you have uncovered a new reality that I never noticed. It just goes to show that the producers cater to trends in our society and package artists to be more marketable.

But I for one don't miss female rockers at all. Not to be sexist, but in-your-face behavior is what we have male rockers for, (and come to think of it), I don't like them either. All that matters is the music that comes out of my speakers. I don't care who's singing it.

- Atul

RW said...

To paraphrase Dorothy Parker - "If all the girl rock stars were laid end to end... I wouldn't be a bit surprised."

I guess I got my clutch stuck in I mean on Debbie Harry...

Sereena said...

I'm not interested in celebrities (musical or otherwise) unless they are hot, black, and male. Or black, male, and possessing musical genius.

Prego said...

Firstly, Courtney Hole is the antithesis of rock. Secondly, Chrissy Hynde is conspicuously absent...

Other than that, you raise an interesting point, only I am pretty darned sexist about women in rock. It's kind of like watching a girls' high school basketball tournament. There might be a couple gamers, but you mostly get a lot of screeching, flailing arms and a 35-16 final score.

The dearth of women rockers can probably be attributed to the fact that collectively, we men don't really want to hear their sh*t. Anybody that's been involved in a long relationship or is currently married can attest to that.

When Bob Mould wrote:
"Take out the garbage, baby but the dishes don't get done..." it evokes an image of household discontent and a lover's spat.

If Meredith Brooks or Courtney Hole were to sing that same couplet, we can all agree that, "Shut up, bitch. I'll do it after the football game," is our knee-jerk response.

Remember 4 Non Blondes? I wish I didn't. Biology does have a direct effect on one's ability to rock. I know I'll incur the wrath of the Indigo Girls fan club, but I'm standing by my theory.

By the way, nice to meet you. I came across your blog via Hairshirt's blog. Coincidentally, I wrote something about the absence of Satan in current music a few months back. It might be of interest to you.

p

RW said...

some tough standards from sereena there. That leaves about 6 people I'm thinkin...

kate.d. said...

Biology does have a direct effect on one's ability to rock.

let's do...the time warp...again! today, we're visiting 1972, a time when most people in america had their heads up their asses when it came to what women "can" and "cannot" do.

sigh.

Gino said...

i cant believe you left out ann and nancy wilson.
not just one chick, but TWO hard pounding babes in one package who had talent.
and really did know how play a guitar.

we'll never see that again.

RW said...

I guess everybody must have forgotten The Slits?

Seriously - is there anything more antiquated than head banger rock and roll? Like bikers and old guys with tatoos and pony tails - walking relics.

Think about it... Janis Joplin died almost 35 years ago. That's like if it were 1968 you'd be sitting there mourning the loss of someone who was popular in 1933.

And they tell me to get out more!

Prego said...

Katie D.

I like the way you asperse. "1972." That's rich.

While I'll entertain your position as valid, I can attest that there are very few women I've dated that had more than twenty CDs (eight of the selections, of course, were of the Lilith Fair variety. Moreover, none owned a musical instrument. Oh, yeah. One owned a guitar, but she's a lesbian now (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Shoes, on the other hand, were plentiful.

Rock Journalist: So, who were your influences growing up
Female 'Rocker': Um... Hush Puppies, Dolce & Gabbana and Jil Sander
Rock Journalist: Sweet.

Societal roles, I suppose, are largely responsible for the absence of rock in the female gender, but biology enters thusly:

80-90% of rock musicians do it to attract women. Conversely women do it for the love of the music. A woman does not have to work as hard to get laid.

If I'm ever backstage and a female rocker is getting pig-roasted by a couple male groupies, my stomach would turn, I'd toss the flowers in the shitcan and go home. On the other hand, if the roles were reversed, I'm sure the groupies would either join in or wait their turn.

I think the same rules applied in 1972, though I'm not sure. I was five, and listening to Three Dog Night and Clint Holmes wearing a pair of Thom McCann's.

My apologies for the verbose response. I'm diggin' this roundtable discussion.
p

RW said...

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Prego said...

heh. i get the point. eve's plum fan, i take it?

kate.d. said...

ah, prego, your first mistake was referring to me as "katie." we must now be mortal enemies.

you hit the jackpot up there with "societal roles, i suppose, are largely responsible for the absence of rock in the female gender." the rest, i fear, can be categorized as drivel.

i kid, i kid.

but really, a lot of what you're saying is what kills me - the argument that women can't rock because women haven't really rocked up to this point. well, hrmmm, why is that? because they can't? i've seen scant evidence of women lacking some kind of guitar strumming gene. because up until now (and right at this very moment) they're overtly and subtly discouraged from doing so?

we're getting warmer.

but we do agree on something - i like this roundtable thing too. i've lurked around here a few times, and i like the set-up. maybe i'll come back to be contentious more often....

Donny B said...

Geez, where do I begin? prego, very few women you've dated had more than 20 CD's? Try dating outside your family.

Jenny, what's interesting about Pat is that her record company totally sold her a sexpot (cuz she was really hot) and she hated it. she was against it. can you imagine someone taking that stand now? I guess Pink supposedly did, if you believe her Don't Let Me Get Me video, but still...

Prego, I was joking before. I'm sure your family is very lovely. And how can you say there's no Satan in music? Have you not seen the Hades-spawned double-headed demon that is Jessica and Ashlee? You don't think they were actually birthed through a human birth canal, do you?

And to all the "How could you leave out X, Y, Z?" This was not a comprehensive list of every single female artist who ever did anything remotely rock-ish. I was just using examples to illustrate my point.

RW, you make an interesting point about generational nostaligia. I'm sure I'd have some witty reply if I wasn't hopped up on Zicam and Sudafed and wine and pink champagne right now (seriously).

Prego said...

Kate (sorry)

It's a farcical argument to propose that there's a 'rock' chromosome that prevents women from 'rocking,' but hey... maybe there's a research scientist somewhere trying to figure that one out.

When it comes down to it, nobody's keeping Caitlyn or Madison from purchasing a Stratocaster but Caitlyn and Madison.

p

Donny B said...

Oh and Sereena, I'm thinking:

LL Cool J and 50 Cent, maybe some Nelly and (please I hope not) Usher, and a little R. Kelly?

Sereena said...

None of the above.

Donny B said...

Damn. Then who? Denzel?

Prego said...

Donny,

You're right about two things.
1. I am married to my first cousin. What can I say? She's got huge fun-bags. and
2. It's impossible to compile an all-encompassing list (ahem... Laura Ballance... cough).

Regarding Jessica Simpson, I did ask the Almighty Nefarious One to take her back to hell with him. I believe she's got fire-pit front property on the penthouse floor.

kate.d. said...

nobody's keeping Caitlyn or Madison from purchasing a Stratocaster but Caitlyn and Madison.

first of all, there should be severe sanctions on anyone who volutarily chooses to name their child madison. just sayin'.

second of all, statements like this make me want to beat my head against my desk repeatedly. since i don't feel like getting a bloody forehead this early in the morning, and i don't have the energy for Gender And Society 101 right now, i'll just say this:

the idea of pure choice is delightful. the idea of a girl being able to just pick up a guitar or not, free from the influence of any and all societal pressures, pretenses, implications, etc makes me want to dance a jig here in my office. however, this kind of pure choice doesn't exist in our society, and it's damaging and dishonest to imply that it does.

phew. that's way to much patriarchy-blaming for this early hour. i need a cup of coffee!

Prego said...

Kate's sick of gettin' hassled by da man. It must be a conspiracy.

So I guess womankind has no free will. Funny, I know I felt matriarchal pressure to keep me from wanting to sell Mary Kay cosmetics, yet here I am, driving my pink Cadillac to spit in the face of social conventions.

Fight the power.
p

RW said...

The sheer number of women who contributed to rock and roll from the 50s on makes the whole argument moot. And I'm pretty sure that wasn't the entire gist of the question.

When prego was 6 he stuck girls' pig tails in the inkwells. The boy is father to the man. End of story.

Prego said...

Only an idiot would ignore the large contribution women have made in music.

There's a world of difference between the ability to 'rock' and the ability to play music. I'm not about to throw away my Cesaria Evora, Eydie Gorme, Madonna, Throwing Muses, Breeders, Pretenders, Kirsty MacColl, Lena Horne, 10,000 Maniacs, Jane Siberry or Go-Go's CDs... But if I'm in the mood to hear gut-wrenching, piss on the floor and kick the dog music, they wouldn't be my first choice.

Then again, neither would Led Zeppelin, Clay Aiken, John Tesh, vintage Creed or Matchbox 20.

... and it wasn't ink wells. it was glue.

Sereena said...

Britney is in the "Toxic" video? I didn't notice.

Donny B said...

Prego, "fun bags"? That is so 2005. The politcally correct term now is "lady lumps."

Prego and Kate, how about you're both wrong? Maybe the reason there are no rockin' ladies is because a music executive wouldn't know a talented rock star - male or female - even if they walked right up and kicked him in his "man lumps" (which is where most music executives should be kicked).

Ah, Sereena, a clue! So...what's that guy's name...Tyrese, is it?

And I'm not sure, but I think any mentioning of John Tesh, Clay Aiken or Britney Spears gets you gentlemen booted from the table. Carefull now...

Donny B said...

Oh and RW, besides Janis, I also want dinosaurs to come back. They were cool. Seriously, grizzly bears and kimono dragons ain't got nothing on a dinosaur. I don't care how old they are.

StaceyBelle said...

prego-
the girls you date obviously suck. i own over 200 CDs-- more than my boyfriend. I used to play piano and guitar, but now I mostly just listen to him play piano when it comes to my own musical talents. oh yeah, and i think i own about 5 pairs of shoes.

and i agree w/ Katie. what the f* are you people talking about women cannot rock? what century do you live in? no wonder why you are miserable and you have crap girlfriends. and if you said it to get a rise that's even more pathetic. how about this: women rock so much more than men that if we refused to sleep with you the world would stop.

but I agree donny. i used to be really into Ani D in high school. Liz Phair, Fiona Apple, Bjork. But sadly, there really hasn't been any single female vocal I can think of since those that I listen to...

how about Cat Power??? okay so she's not courtney love, but i never really liked love. and she got a bad boob job.
portishead (sorta works)
morcheeba (headwoman)

Prego said...

Stacy,

Some of them did kind of suck, But the sex was great, so I put up with them for a while. One of them wanted to buy me a Gibson SG for Chirstmas, so I broke up with her that November. I figured a gift that extravagant would necessitate me dating her for another few months.

And regarding: women rock so much more than men that if we refused to sleep with you the world would stop, That's really interesting. You ought to write a song about it.... on the piano.

I too, own CDs by all the women musicians you mentioned. They're all outrageous. Truly, truly, truly outrageous.

Donny, I agree with you on the record exec. bit. Rock music has evolved from an era where a good handful of talented musicians whose careers were nurtured (for longer than needed, in some cases) to just an obscene amount of deluded hacks alll looking to join the culture of fame, while the industry extracts maximum profits from them.

Gino said...

damn, kids....
was all this necessary?

and the wilsons can still go crazy on me anyday.

Trish said...

Donny, my dear Donny, what a great topic. I've thought this for a while -- how frightening for our culture that Ashley Simpson is considered "edgy." This is caused, I'm sure, by the American Idol-ization of our fine nation. That, and the fact that the '50s appear to have been reborn, and every singer also wants to act, and every actor might try her larynx at singing. Should we be surprised? When half of our current prominent pop stars originated on The Mickey Mouse Club? It's a total throwback to Annette Funicello and the first round of Mousekateers. In the spirit of full disclosure, however, I must admit that my bitterness stems from the fact that my desire to be a "professional entertainer" (I didn't know that translated as "stripper/hooker") bloomed at the wrong time. Blasted '70s and '80s.

And to make matters worse, Avril Lavigne -- for crying out loud! -- was positioned as a rocker grrrl. Come on. Courtney Love spits up things on stage that are edgier than her.

But since this is cyclical, I think we can anticipate the pendulum will be swinging to the other extreme some time in the next decade. And when it does? You, Donny, will be the first person I'll think of.

TD

Anonymous said...

i couldn't agree more. but there is hope...and her name is Jen Leigh...aka "dirty jenny". how rock & roll is that? she rips like jimi hendrix and writes/sings kick ass tunes. she has played with many huge acts, too. i've seen her live...she's amazing ! now is her time. check her out :
www.jenleigh.com
www.myspace.com/jenleighmusic

Donny B said...

Thanks for the heads up, Jen...uh, I mean Anonymous.

Anonymous said...

hey donny b,

fyi...my name is teresa riverwood. so much for being anonymous ! didn't feel like signing up to your blog. i am a massage therapist for professional musicians and i met jen while on tour with britney spears & kelis. she is truly an inspiration for all women and kicks more ass than any man i have ever seen !
TR.

Donny B said...

Sorry. Didn't mean to "out" you. I was just making a joke because with the website and the myspace link it seemed like quite a push.

you got work with kelis? how was she?